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First: 10/26/2009
Last: 10/26/2009
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Not meaning to hurt any feelings here but all technicians I have ever talked to have told me one thing about my Toyota Truck now 21 years old. "Like a piece of cast iron they just do not break","You cannot kill those things even if you try", My technician and personal friend, quote "If you want to drive a car that you do not have to worry about get a Camry". Not a "Camery". And please when you compare, do not use an apple and a orange. I just talked to a Gentleman at my favorite fuel stop here near Chattanooga. He had his GM, either Envoy or something like it. Brand new vehicle less that two years old. He said I will never buy another GM product EVER again. He has to leave his key in the ignition. He simply uses another key to lock the doors. He said if he pulled it out and tried to put it back in it was a twenty to thirty minuet ordeal to try to get that key to turn at all. It was on the rack checking where an oil leak was coming from. Ending our converstaion he told me that "this has been from day one, either one thing or another".Your G6,>> my brother-in-law is a GM fan, "poor soul is an english teacher and just doesn't know any better so he has one of those things. In fact he just called me to go look at a used car he wants to buy. He trusts my judgement. Somewhat like you I have always worked with my hands. Associate Degree Homebuilding Tech trade course, Certificate of completion, (auto mechanics), Past my electrical exam a few years back and I still hold my Electrical Contractors Liscense. But I started out with Jet aircraft maintaince (USAF highest average in class for training), "but" I get boared easily so I need a new challenge every now and then. So Jets, to Home building contractor to Oak stair specialist/builder, to maintaince forman of a 40,000 sq. ft. printing plant, to Liscenced Electrical contractor, to self taught proffesional photographer. Buy a Camry V6 and a General Motors G6 V6 and then talk to me after 15 years. The toyota will still be on the road and that GM will most likely be the next new Ford product in the form of recylcled material from the crush and burn facility. While I may agree that the newer Toyota products I would not shop for, except maybe the little shoe box thingy with the Scion name on it. I was looking at the sticker on it and it said,>> "Parts 100% Japan, Engine, Chassis, motor, etc etc. "Japan only" Labor and place of origin "Japan" Other foreign or American content "zero" I was impressed. Japanese put auto's together better than any American plant can even think of trying to do. I had Toyota pickup I bought some thirty years ago. I drove it 12 years and one day I was driving down the road and starting giggling inside in disbelief. I started to think of what I had to repair in the last 12 years and besides the usual tires , brakes, shocks and other stuff that you have to replace for wear and tear, I do not think I spent over three hundred dollars in 12 years on stuff that was not a wear and tear item. Finally after the 12 years the head gasket leaked. No major problems but just a little annoying thing to get fixed. My Tech. called me when he had the head of and wanted me to see something. I went over and he shined a light in the cylinders. The hone marks from what ever tool they used to do the final hone before assemble, Well the marks were not even worn off by the pistons from that tool after 12 years. My Toyota truck now is almost 21 years old. My son has put it into a ditch for me so it looks a little banged "if you will". But I can drive that thing 90 and 100 mph (not recomended "tickets to expensive") but it does not vibrate, wooble, rattle etc etc. Just a smooth sounding high pitch purr. If you are comparing a GM product to a Toyota Product as being superior, I am going to guess the future, you will be in a very small minority on this forum. My family car now, a Camry, but, if money would not be an issue I would go Subaru wagon hands down next. But since I do not have the money I would highly consider one of the Mazda products. Besides the most reliable fords are the small ones with the Mazda engines and the most reliable GM's are the small ones with the Toyota engines in them. But I am not even thinking of replacement for another six to eight year minimum yet on my Camry. Besides it is only barely broken in at 11 years old. I do not know where you work, or your experience level, but by the sounds of it, if this is all you have done and if you started at a generous age of thirty I could still be your dad. I do agree with you on the newer Toyota products though and that is why I will never buy one. In fact I have only bought one new Toyota ever. That would be that one of the trucks I mentioned here. To even start to compare a GM product to a Toyota Product is a "at least to me" something to get a good laugh with. Cajun
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